Sunday, November 27, 2011

Splice you Opinion

Shin Lim may be a bright new light on the magic horizon. Maybe too bright... One of his products: Splice. With a nifty demo video:



In case it is deleted: A signed Eight of Diamonds is shown, twirled on the right hand middle finger to prove it's a single card. Then it is placed on the deck, and then placed in the middle. Magic gesture, and it's back on top. Near the end of the video this is repeated from a different angle. The only difference: The card is not placed on top, and then placed in the middle. But placed on top and cut into the middle via Charlier Cut.

Here is the caviar: The video is faked. A duplicate is used.


This issue was brought up on the Magic Café. Shin Lim replied:
Hey guys, Shin Lim here. This has been a move I've been working on for a while now, and I felt that it was a sleight worth putting out into the magic community. It's a move that can be done perfectly if practice is put in to it. So the answer is NO I didn't use two duplicates. All it took for dendrake to do was to crop my playing card a couple of milimeters up to make the signature look different. If you notice the end result of the second 8 was that the 8 on top looked faded on the edges, because of the "cropping". Guys, I would never do such a thing as to use 2 duplicates when the move doesn't ask for it(and because I would rather take the time to do a couple of "takes" and get the move right on camera, than to painstakingly forge a signature and make them look identical). It's an extremely clean sleight, and if you ever see me at a convention, I'll be more than happy to show you a live demonstration, including you, Dendrake.

Shin Lim


What a liar.

This is not new. I remember the time when Craig Petty faked a sleeving demonstration during the Wizard Product review. But that's a different story.

5 comments:

chris said...

this isnt the first time shin has been accused of either stealing ideas or using fake demos. He had alot of flack from flawless where it was also faked and he never credited sources he knew were around.

Bizzaro. said...

I'm glad you drew attention to this. I personally find it disgusting when someone fakes a demo just to show you "what the spectator sees" or because it can't actually be sold on camera as is.

e2cdcd82-0bb6-11e1-810b-000bcdca4d7a said...

I think it's worth mentioning that the management of the Magic Cafe' message board has deleted the entire thread discussing SPLICE and its faked demo. This was really a very civil thread, especially considering the subject matter. So why was it deleted? And was it done at Shin Lim's request? Or at Vanishing Inc.'s request?

Or was it just deleted because the management of Magic Cafe' don't want potential advertisers to see the board as a place where strong criticism of a product or creator is allowed -- even if it's strong criticism of clearly deceptive advertising?

Whatever the explanation, it doesn't look good.

e2cdcd82-0bb6-11e1-810b-000bcdca4d7a said...

Seems only fair to add this update to my previous post:

Shin Lim has owned up to doctoring the demo with a dupe card -- and to lying about it when it was discovered -- and he's apologized. Doesn't make what he did right, and this should've come sooner, but he is at least no longer denying and ducking the issue.

The threade (until and unless the Cafe' management deletes it, too):

http://themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=442827&forum=109&25

Patrick Lehnen said...

Kennste das Video hier?

http://media.theory11.com/1649-Jason-England---The-Bottom-Deal#

Bei 00:59 prahlt er damit, dass er die anderen Asse auch mit seiner Bottom-Deal-Technik ausgeteilt hätte.
Jedoch sieht man bei 00:39 deutlich, dass sie nicht unten waren, sondern ganz normal oben drauf.

Ähnliche verarsche.